Build and Exit
As a chartered management accountant by trade, I uncovered my true potential at 37, moving from a well-paid corporate job to building my own accounting and consultancy firm. Having worked on 5-10 acquisitions or business exits each month for clients, I understand the key challenges business owners face, including getting the real value they want for their business, whilst having the right controls and processes in place so the business can run independently of the owners. The Build and Exit podcast will include conversations, stories and real-life examples of day-to-day challenges business owners face, different methods of growth including acquisitions and top tips on how owners can transition from working in their business to working on it, enabling them to maximize their value on exit. I will also include episodes where I share my own learnings on business management and how Wilkinson Accounting Solutions are planning to continue to grow by acquisition.
Episodes
49 minutes ago
49 minutes ago
There are simple things you can do to get your acquisitions completed faster.
So many people aren’t prepared in the way they should be, which dramatically slows down the process of buying or selling a business.
In this episode I am joined by Jamil Anakkar, the CEO of Tandy Ventures, who shares where he sees the massive opportunities in M&A right now.
Jamil outlines the challenges he faced during his first acquisition, and the importance of effective communication and financial health in the acquisition process. To be best prepared you need to deal in person with the seller as much as possible before handing over to solicitors.
Leave too much to them and it will slow you down.
If you want to find out how you should be prepared for your business acquisition, listen up!
"Bigger deals are generally easier. " - Jamil Anakkar
Timestamps
01:46 - An introduction to Jamil
06:57 - How many owners are hands off in their business?
09:07 - Jamil on closing his deal in 6 months
13:05 - Agree as much as possible with sellers before solicitors
16:02 - Identifying big risks at heads of terms
26:54 - The biggest trend in businesses below audit level
30:26 - Not investing in the right people
36:48 - Jamil's future aspirations
Connect with Jamil Anakkar:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamil-anakkar/
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC21gxYXKncu-ir8zbiqRgqA
Tandy Ventures - https://www.tandygroup.net/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
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Monday Nov 11, 2024
Monday Nov 11, 2024
Is your business too dependent on you?
Far too many companies are lifestyle businesses that would fall apart without the owner.
This can jeopardise your exit, so detaching yourself from working in the business is essential.
In this episode I am joined by Michèle Hecken, who built, operated, scaled, and exited a successful business in the translation industry. After completing a high-7-figure exit she now serves as an Advisor to high performers wanting to run businesses that serve them and live lives they dream of.
She shares how she scaled and exited her translation company, learning the art of off-boarding as she went. She also gives strategies you can use to create a business that can operate independently of you.
Off-boarding tasks and jobs can maximise the value of your exits.
So, let’s hear from Michèle!
"The art of off-boarding is a game changer" - Michèle Hecken
Timestamps
01:29 - An introduction to Michèle Hecken
03:20 - Working on the business not in it
05:26 - How Julie stopped working in her business
10:23 - Julie's story developing her business
12:47 - The steps Michèle took to step back in her business
18:33 - The problems with service-based businesses
26:11 - Focusing on governance and controls
33:59 - The power of the finance team
36:23 - Tying systems to KPIs
Connect with Michèle Hecken:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelehecken/
Michèle’s website - https://www.michelehecken.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/mhecken/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/mhecken/
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Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
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Monday Oct 28, 2024
Monday Oct 28, 2024
How does it feel to sell your business to a multinational chain?
Edin Basic did just that. Building his chain of restaurants up to 17 sites before selling it to Pizza Express.
But when the deal was done, he didn’t go out celebrating, he was left with the feeling of “was that it?”
For him the journey of building the business had been the real enjoyment of the whole process. He talks candidly about how he felt at every step of the way and afterwards. He shares the complexities of exiting as well as the importance of preparation and governance.
Edin emphasizes the significance of understanding the market dynamics and being ready for unexpected changes that can influence your decision of when is best to make the deal.
Now helping other business owners with their own growth and exit strategies there is a lot to learn from Edin.
"It's all about the journey rather than the destination." – Edin Basic
Timestamps
01:05 - An introduction to Edin
03:06 - Scaling to exit position
07:28 - Getting clear about what you want
13:25 - How did the exit with Pizza Express happen?
18:36 - Knowing the right time to exit
22:25 - How Edin felt after selling
25:55 - Did the deal change before the end?
32:03 - The emotional side of selling a business
37:04 - Working after the exit
Connect with Edin Basic:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/edinbasic-help-food-and-beverage-founders-grow-and-exit-their-business/
We Amplify - https://we-amplify.co/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
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Monday Oct 14, 2024
Mastering the Exit: Insights from an 8x Business Seller with Rachel Murphy
Monday Oct 14, 2024
Monday Oct 14, 2024
Are you intentional about scaling your business for exit?
So many organic business owners don’t have a plan and don’t know what the end goal is. If they did their loved ones would thank them so much more for doing things right when things passed onto them.
In this episode I speak with Rachel Murphy, a two-time exit founder, about her entrepreneurial journey and 8x multiplier exit.
Rachel gives insight into the importance of intentional business scaling, and the challenges and opportunities faced during the COVID-19 pandemic. She also emphasizes the need for better exit strategies and support services for business owners, particularly female founders.She is currently the founder of The Grafter, a business consultancy that helps professional services businesses grow, scale, and exit, maximizing their value in the process.
So there is a lot to learn from Rachel otherwise known as “The Legend”.
"I was really clear and intentional that it was going to be an in and out in five years." – Rachel Murphy
Timestamps
01:13 - Rachel's background in business exits
03:13 - Was Rachel always going to sell her business?
05:47 - The end intentions of organic business owners
10:56 - Getting the staff on board during acquisitions
14:36 - The opportunities brought by Covid
18:49 - The exit from the 8x multiplier
22:23 - Rachel's view on the exit planning market
29:34 - Entrepreneurship through acquisition
Connect with Rachel Murphy:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachthegrafter/
The Grafter - https://thegrafter.com/
Rachel’s Linktree - https://linktr.ee/RachMurphy
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Sep 30, 2024
Monday Sep 30, 2024
Have you considered becoming an investor?
The mindset you need differs significantly from being an operator of the business. One that my guest in this episode, Taha Afshar explores with us.
Taha started his journey working in a family-run tea business to then make the shifts needed to diversify their income. He shares his experiences moving to the world of investments. Where he has now successfully acquired and managed multiple businesses.
Taha delves into the importance of diversification in investment portfolios, the challenges of navigating the acquisition process, and the strategies for managing acquired businesses.
With this approach to investments as a form of diversification Taha has given his family a solid foundation for future growth.
“I had a 115% return in the first year.” – Taha Afshar
Timestamps
01:10 - An introduction to Taha
02:16 - Why Taha decided to diversify
08:47 - How Taha found the first business he bought
12:05 - Taha's experience in the sector he bought
13:32 - Acquisition number 2
18:20 - Does Taha work full time in investments?
20:47 - Getting the systems and processes right
25:20 - Evolving and learning
29:22 - Has investing given Taha what he wanted?
Connect with Taha Afshar:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahaafshar/
X - https://twitter.com/tahaafshar?lang=en-GB
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Sep 16, 2024
David Longford - From insolvency to exit with no earn out
Monday Sep 16, 2024
Monday Sep 16, 2024
The journey to business owner is never straight forward.
In this episode that journey started due to my guest, David Longford, taking over the business from the owner just before he passed away.
This transition from employee to business owner required respect and a focus on the long-term growth of the business. David talks about the process involved in taking over from an owner in these difficult circumstances.
David shares how he successfully exited without an earn-out and avoided insolvency. He also highlights the need for clear communication and trust-building with potential buyers during the exit process.
This episode provides valuable insights into the acquisition and exit journey.
“You’ve just got to recognise your weaknesses” – David Longford
Timestamps
01:13 - An introduction to David
02:34 - Transitioning from employee to buyer
05:54 - How David got the company shares
10:34 - The pressures you put on yourself as a new CEO
13:07 - Why no money down deals don't work
21:15 - The key thing in David's exit process
28:25 - What the sale structure looked like
Connect with David Longford:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/longford/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Sep 02, 2024
Geoff Ramm - How excellent customer service increases valuations
Monday Sep 02, 2024
Monday Sep 02, 2024
How can customer service affect your business sale?
Buyers looking at your business would have more confidence in their investment if they saw customer satisfaction was high. So, making sure you not only have satisfied customers but evidencing it is key.
In this episode I am joined by customer service expert Geoff Ramm. He is the creator and author of Celebrity Service & Celebrity Service Superstars. And has challenged and inspired audiences across 50 countries, to create award-winning ideas to outperform the competition.
Geoff shares ideas to take your customer service not only to the next level but to the heights you would go to if you were serving your celebrity idol. This not only impacts the success of your business but will give you an advantage when selling it.
This episode is full of great ideas to improve the lasting impression you have on your customers.
“What sort of service would you deliver if a celebrity would walk through your doors today?" – Geoff Ramm
Timestamps
01:09 - An introduction to Geoff
02:46 - How would you rate your service?
06:57 - Having the same excitement for all customers
11:00 - Staff and the customer service equation
20:39 - Using customer service in selling businesses
25:33 - Recognition from the customers
Connect with Geoff Ramm:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/customerservicespeaker/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/geoff.ramm.5
X - https://x.com/GeoffRamm
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@geofframm
Geoff’s website - https://www.geofframm.com/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Aug 19, 2024
Monday Aug 19, 2024
Have you planned for the worst?
Imagine you’re at death’s door and know you have no plan for what will happen to your business if you die.
This is the exact experience one of my guest’s clients faced. And the worst did happen. Sadly, she passed with no plan for what would happen to the business once she was gone. Not a situation anyone wants to find themselves in.
In this episode I am joined by Paula Wingate, who is dedicated to helping 7 figure hardworking women unleash their explosive business potential without feeling overwhelmed or sacrificing their life in the process.
She shares stories that will make you think twice about your own business planning. She also turns the tables and interviews me about my own journey scaling Wilkinson Accounting Solutions, how to price right from the start and what every business owner should be doing to sell their business at maximum value.
There is a lot to learn from this one so get ready!
“Sometimes you've got to get that slap in the face to say, is this worth it?" – Paula Wingate
Timestamps
01:23 – Introduction to Paula
02:08 - 7 figure tragedies in exits
06:56 - Going from 100 to 40 hours work a week
12:20 - Julie's journey employing others
16:50 - What would Julie do differently?
22:52 - Paying for the right people
26:58 - Pricing wrong from the start
36:12 - How Julie makes 3.5 return from expenses
42:41 - How to sell your business at max value
Connect with Paula Wingate:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/7figurebusinesscoach/
Influential Minds - https://www.influentialminds.co.uk/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Aug 05, 2024
Monday Aug 05, 2024
What would you do to make your business a success?
Would it include jumping from a broken-down train to hitch hike to a product pitch?
Well, that’s what my guest in this episode did for an idea that didn’t even work out. Todd Sullivan grew up in an entrepreneurial household and has lived this way ever since. He is the CEO and Managing Partner of Exitwise, a company that helps businesses sell.
Todd shares some of the incredible ups and downs he has faced including a failed exit that resulted in losing all his staff and suppliers. After rebuilding he was able to go on to sell multiple other businesses. He also shares his entrepreneurial story including the incredible mission he and his brother went on to pitch to Toys ‘R’ Us.
Todd shares his advice to aspiring entrepreneurs as well as the challenges of the M&A process and the importance of surrounding oneself with the right advice
“The entrepreneurial journey is a complete emotional and financial roller coaster” – Todd Sullivan
Timestamps
01:55 - An introduction to Todd
03:48 - Todd on an exit falling through
06:45 - How Todd got through the difficult times
12:18 - Jumping from a train to meet Toys 'R' Us
19:22 - Todd's journey to entrepreneurship
22:15 - Todd's advice for entrepreneurs
25:02 - How Julie got into entrepreneurship
Connect with Todd Sullivan:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddfsullivan/
Exitwise on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/exitwise/
Exitwise - https://exitwise.com/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!
Monday Jul 22, 2024
Monday Jul 22, 2024
Selling a business comes with risks, but the buyer tyring to swindle you right at the end would challenge anyone’s nerve.
My guest in this episode, Sam Oliver, shares his experience of successfully selling his business and going through an earn-out clause. He discusses the challenges he faced when the buyer suddenly changed the processes at the last moment.
He shares what happened with disputes over the deferred consideration and the lengthy and costly process of resolving them. He also provides insights into what he would have done differently to protect himself and offers advice for other entrepreneurs going through similar situations.
“I thought they wouldn’t want to fire me, piss me off, and give me a shit offer” – Sam Oliver
Timestamps
02:08 - An introduction to Sam
02:53 - Did Sam plan to have an exit?
06:34 - Growing a company to 37% market share
11:57 - Why did the earn out go wrong?
14:25 - How did Sam challenge low payments?
21:14 - Could Sam have done anything differently?
24:49 - Why did the buyer have this strategy?
27:09 - Sam's new venture Openfi
Connect with Sam Oliver:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam0liver/
OpenFi - https://www.openfi.tech/
Lead Pro - https://www.lead.pro/
Advance To Go - https://www.advancetogo.com/
Connect With Julie Wilkinson
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliewilkinson-accounting/
Tik Tok – https://www.tiktok.com/@wasolutions
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUvq6gfNoP_4dfIJulL6C6A
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/wilkinsonaccountingsolutions
Website - https://wilkinsonaccountingsolutions.co.uk/
Before you go, don’t forget to leave a comment and review if you got something out of this episode!